Christians get beaten up in Seattle.

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18 Responses to Christians get beaten up in Seattle.

  1. Laura says:

    Thank you Wretched for keeping your audience informed about what’s going on around the world and right here in America. I fear that this anger/hate/outrage at Christians is just getting started – it will get much worse. Of course we won’t see this on the news unless it can be spun to show how bad/wrong Christians are. Videos, like this one, where Christians are being outright attacked, will have to be shown on programs like yours and on the Internet if we are to get the word out at all.

  2. Karena says:

    So I wonder what the general consensus of Christians is: do you feel that the guy should not have fought back because he is a Christian…unless he is a policeman or in the military? When are we going to stop letting them physically beat us down. Christians are employed in civil and military units and use physical suppression against violence why not ordinary citizens who are physically attacked?

    • Ron says:

      Hi Karena, Christians are taught not to retaliate when the attack is intended for Christ. He is our example, He was sinless yet did not open His mouth to defend Himself and was tortured and murdered on the cross. Read Matt chapter 5.

      • Karena says:

        Read the whole Bible including the stories of the Exodus out of Egypt, King David, the Book of Esther (where the Israelites were empowered to defend against the aggressors), Gideon’s Army, The Book of Nehemiah where they built the wall with bricks in one hand and a sword in the other, I could go on forever. Jesus Christ was sacrificed as a propitiation for sin. He was a sacrificial lamb. There is no point in any of us dying at the hands of oppressors. The Kingdom suffers violence and the violent take it by force and the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God for the pulling down of strongholds and every high thing that would exalt itself above the knowledge of Christ. I understand these verses. But what I want to know is are we just going to allow these types of things to occur to our families, friends, and neighbors and just chalk it up to being beat up is a part of being a Christian. It’s not right. I don’t think God approves. I understand Grace too and how the people involved just do not know what they’re doing and that we are to forgive them. I love the people who are getting beat up for exercising constitutional rights and think they need defended. And not after they’ve already been beat up when the police arrive, but before they even get attacked for nothing more than voicing their opinion. I would even stand up for any person of a differing religions right to do so in this country without fear of brutality. I feel like that’s loving my neighbor, not overlooking a violent mob because the person getting pounded is a Christian and we are a non-violent religion. I just want to understand. I’m not trying to be a jerk. It’s just not right.

  3. This kind of behavior better wake up the body of Christ in America. To you brothers in Christ who stood in the gap for Christ at this place just know that the Lord blessed many through your stand for righteousness. You are a blessing. Stay strong and be of good courage.

  4. Jeff says:

    Speak the truth in Love…persecution for your faith is spoken of in the scriptures. Also look at the disciples and what they endured for their faith in sharing the gospel. To fight back physically, just ask the question. Would Jesus?

  5. Julie says:

    Jesus suffered and was crucified for us. The states that: YOU HAVE/will SUFFERED IN THE FLESH BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD!
    “Since therefore Christ suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves with the same way of thinking, for whoever has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for human passions but for the will of God.” (1 Peter 4:1, 2 ESV)

  6. Fy says:

    They were being ignorant and intolerant for being there with the signs in the first place, but that does not justify violence. I wonder what would happen if people walked around with anti-christian signs at a christian event?

    • Karena says:

      We’d respect their first amendment right to voice their opinion.

    • Ron says:

      Christians that are willing to suffer persecution to warn unbelievers to flee the wrath to come are obedient to Jesus Christ. “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation” (Mark16:15). Read the book of Acts and see the heroes of the faith put themselves out in the streets to preach the gospel having counted the cost and knowing that the danger is real, did so anyway. We are called to do the same thing and if you are called to be a martyr, blessed are you and your reward in heaven is great. Jesus said,
      “But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also… but I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven…” (Matt5:39,44-45).

  7. Mary Murphy says:

    Brothers and Sisters in Christ, Don’t forget to shake the dust off of your shoes. Seriously.

  8. My question is whether anyone knows who these guys are and whether they truly are Christian brothers or not. I’ve seen a lot of preachers who do stuff that gets them beat up, and it isn’t always because they preach the true gospel.

    • Ron says:

      I do not ‘know’ these folks personally, but the sign they carry is biblical and their sign is tackled and destroyed by those that are offended by the message of what God considers to be sin, and it also proclaims that “Jesus saves from sin” so that is enough for me. I also believe Todd Friel and Wretched to be trustworthy. Jesus said, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation” (Mark16:15) and Peter said about the persecution of the believers, “Beloved, do not to be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you” (1Pet4:12). The battle between those that are committed to help the gay community gain acceptance in our society and those that are completely committed followers of Jesus Christ, who in obedience to Him, are taking the gospel message to the world, inevitably will continue to escalate. The Apostle Paul said, “… join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God” (2Tim1:8). “Suffer hardship with me as a good soldier of Christ Jesus” (2Tim2:3) “For this reason I suffer all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory” (v.10).

      • To be clear, I do not question the trustworthiness of Wretched.

        But as you said in your first sentence, you do not know if these people are true brothers in the faith or unfortunate nonbelievers following a false Jesus and being beaten up by other nonbelievers they’ve offended.

        I’ve seen lots of signs that were ‘biblical’ (whatever that means) which were carried by God-hating Pelagians and sinless perfectionists who like to incite crowds and preach “jesus.”

        I mean no harm, only to find out if with the publicity this has now received we can verify who these people are and if they were actually persecuted for the faith.

      • Ron says:

        I assume that they are true brothers because their sign does have a Biblically accurate message, and their body language seems to indicate that they are not doing anything but holding a sign and doing their best to maintain their composure. I have seen some that fit your description, those that carry signs but are seriously lacking love for the lost.

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